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Get to Know
Our Exceptional
Veterinary Team

We’re very fortunate to have so many skilled staff members working on our team in Orland Park. As pet owners themselves, they know how much your companion means to you, which is why they’re committed to helping you share as many happy, healthy years together as possible.

Meet Our Veterinarians the Best of the Best in Orland Park, IL

Our veterinarians are pet parents like you. They know how rewarding and challenging it is to keep animals healthy! Wherever your journey with your pet takes you, our skilled vets are here to support you both at every step. Get to know them by checking out their bios below, and reach out if you’d like to meet them in person!

Come see what all the talk (and bark…and meow!) is about! Call us at (708) 478-7788 to schedule your pet’s appointment.

Jared Settle
Lisa Lukas
Ashley Sawa
Melissa Newberg
Sara Schultz
Alyssa Strait
Ayanna Davis
Isabel Fleming
Alexander Sommerfeldt
Kat Hall
Tori McCarthy
Kaelan Harmes
Emma Albers-Lopez
Elisia Chavez
Yvonne O’Rourke
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Jared Settle
Jared Settle
Jared Settle
DVM | Partner
DVM | Partner
Interests: Orthopedics, Reproduction, Soft Tissue Surgery & Emergency Medicine
Interests: Orthopedics, Reproduction, Soft Tissue Surgery & Emergency Medicine

Dr. Settle graduated from the University of Illinois College of Veterinary Medicine in 2007.

Why did you choose veterinary medicine as your career path?
Animals have always been an important part of my life. I wanted to have the opportunity to help other people and their animals.

If you could give one piece of advice to pet owners, what would it be?
My advice to pet owners is this: don’t give your pet people food!

Tell us about your pets.
I have 3 dogs named Bocephus, Billy, and Clover, 2 cats named Socks and Boots, and 2 horses named Sertoman and Dixie.

If you could be any animal in the world, what would you be and why?
I would be a sea turtle; it would be fun to swim around the tropical waters.

Lisa Lukas
Lisa Lukas
Lisa Lukas
DVM | Partner
DVM | Partner
Interests: Rehabilitation, Soft Tissue Surgery, End of Life Care, Laparoscopic & Ophthalmology
Interests: Rehabilitation, Soft Tissue Surgery, End of Life Care, Laparoscopic & Ophthalmology

Dr. Lukas has been with Midwest Animal Hospital since June 2009, the same year she graduated from the University of Illinois with her DVM.

What is your favorite quote about animals?
My favorite animal-related quote is “Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole.” 

What is your favorite part about working at Midwest?
I love the variety of cases we see. No two days are ever the same! We have a great team that makes it even better.

What are your hobbies?
Enjoying time off with my family, cooking, and reading. I also enjoy taking my puppy to training classes. We are working towards doing agility when he is older.

What are 3 things people would be surprised to know about you?
I cannot keep houseplants alive for anything but I do grow beautiful plants in my aquarium. I love horses and would love to get back into riding regularly again. Lastly, running is my favorite way to exercise.

Ashley Sawa
Ashley Sawa
Ashley Sawa
DVM | Partner
DVM | Partner
Interests: Surgery, Dentistry, Reproduction, Internal Medicine, Shelter Medicine & Externship Program
Interests: Surgery, Dentistry, Reproduction, Internal Medicine, Shelter Medicine & Externship Program

Dr. Sawa received her degree in biology from Illinois State University and received her DVM from the University of Illinois in 2016.

If you could give one piece of advice to pet owners, what would it be?
Socialize your pets early and often! Consult your veterinarian if you have any questions or concerns – we are here for you!

Tell us about your family and pets!
I married my high school sweetheart in 2017! We have 2 children, Parker and Savannah. I also have a Golden retriever, Delilah, and a St. Bernard named Bernadette (Bernie).

What’s your favorite snack?
I’m a chip-and-dip girl! I love taco dip, appetizers, spinach dip, you name it!

What do you love to do in your free time?
I love spending time with family and friends, traveling, boating, and gardening.

Melissa Newberg
Melissa Newberg
Melissa Newberg
DVM | Associate Veterinarian
DVM | Associate Veterinarian
Interests: Acupuncture, Surgery, Dentistry & Preventative Health Care
Interests: Acupuncture, Surgery, Dentistry & Preventative Health Care

Dr. Newberg attended Briar Cliff University where she majored in biology and then later received her DVM from Iowa State University in 1997.

Why did you choose to become a veterinarian?
I pursued veterinary medicine because I wanted to help animals live longer, healthier lives.

If you could give pet owners any advice, what would it be?
My biggest piece of advice would be: Preventative care can help your pets live longer and healthier!

Tell us about your family and any pets you have.
My dog Lollipop is 8 years old now (can’t believe it!) and my cat, Gingersnap, is now 12. Both of my pets were adopted from Midwest Animal Hospital.

What is your favorite quote about animals?
“We can judge the heart of a person by how they treat animals.”

Sara Schultz
Sara Schultz
Sara Schultz
DVM | Associate Veterinarian
DVM | Associate Veterinarian
Interests: Dentistry & Internal Medicine (Feline Medicine), Mentorship & Cytology
Interests: Dentistry & Internal Medicine (Feline Medicine), Mentorship & Cytology

Dr. Schultz earned her DVM from the University of Illinois in 2007 and joined Midwest Animal Hospital in March 2016.

What is your favorite part about working at Midwest?
I love working with all of the people here. I finally have veterinary colleagues with whom I can collaborate and review cases. I love the willingness of the staff to help with my patients, and teaching and mentoring students.

What are 3 things people would be surprised to know about you?
I'm an only child, I have a tattoo, and I'm able to swim long distances now (thanks to swimming with my son!).

If you could be any animal, what would you be?
I would be a dolphin because then I could swim all day every day in my favorite place, the ocean.

What do you love to do when you’re not at work?
I love swimming, walking with my family, reading, baking, and painting. I will also play my flute occasionally.

Alyssa Strait
Alyssa Strait
Alyssa Strait
DVM | Associate Veterinarian
DVM | Associate Veterinarian
Interests: Soft Tissue Surgery, Dentistry & Emergency Medicine
Interests: Soft Tissue Surgery, Dentistry & Emergency Medicine

Dr. Strait graduated from Purdue University with a bachelor’s degree in animal science and earned her DVM from the University of Illinois in 2022.

What made you decide to pick veterinary medicine for your career?
I was the little kid who never changed their mind. I started telling everyone as soon as I could talk that I wanted to be a vet and I stuck with it!

What is your favorite part about working at Midwest?
I love the variety of cases that we get to see and the number of pets that we get to help. Every day brings something different and I learn something new every day.

Tell us a little bit about your family.
My husband and I have been together since high school. We got married in July 2021. We have a German Shepherd named Petra, 4 cats named Goose, Jasper, Athena, and Stache, and 21 chickens!

What are some of your favorite hobbies?
I love spending time outside, horseback riding, watching movies, trying new restaurants, and doing my nails.

Ayanna Davis
Ayanna Davis
Ayanna Davis
DVM | Associate Veterinarian
DVM | Associate Veterinarian
Interests: Soft Tissue Surgery, Emergency Medicine & Client Education
Interests: Soft Tissue Surgery, Emergency Medicine & Client Education

Dr. Davis is a graduate of Tuskegee University, and she joined Midwest Animal Hospital in June 2022.

What do you love most about working here?
Although we are a general practice, we see a lot of cool cases. I love how every day is different and never boring!

Why did you decide to go into veterinary medicine?
Ever since I can remember, I’ve loved animals. As a kid, I would do anything to have the opportunity to be around a dog or cat. As I got older, I realized that the relationship we have with animals is an amazing thing and I wanted to help foster that relationship any way I could.

What might people be surprised to know about you?
I was class president all 4 years of veterinary medicine school, I played the piano for 10 years (and now I can’t play a single note), and Tuskegee University (my veterinary school) is the only historically black college in the country with a college of veterinary medicine!

Do you have any pets?
I have one dog, a cute, spunky Chihuahua/Pomeranian mix named Paloma. She was my patient in 2022 and I loved her so much I had to adopt her from the rescue!

Isabel Fleming
Isabel Fleming
Isabel Fleming
DVM | Associate Veterinarian
DVM | Associate Veterinarian
Interests: Internal Medicine & Geriatric Care
Interests: Internal Medicine & Geriatric Care

Dr. Fleming received her BS in animal sciences from UIUC in 2019 and earned her DVM from UIUC in 2023.

What one piece of advice would you give pet owners?
I would tell pet owners this: Don’t be afraid to ask if something is okay or clarify something! We’re here to help. 

Give us 3 fun facts about you.
My mother’s side of the family is from Cuba, I love spicy food, and I can’t say no to a margarita!

Do you have pets? Tell us about them!
I have 2 rescue dogs, Oliver and Charlie. I adopted them while I was in vet school and they’ve changed my life.

What are some things you enjoy doing in your spare time?
I love all kinds of outdoor activities, like hiking, kayaking/canoeing, and playing with my dogs. In my downtime, I enjoy watching TV shows and spending time with friends.

Alexander Sommerfeldt
Alexander Sommerfeldt
Alexander Sommerfeldt
DVM | Associate Veterinarian
DVM | Associate Veterinarian
Interests: Soft Tissue Surgery, Orthopedic Surgery & Oncology
Interests: Soft Tissue Surgery, Orthopedic Surgery & Oncology

Dr. Sommerfeldt graduated from the University of Missouri in 2019, where he majored in animal science with a minor in plant science. He attended graduate school at Ross University, where he earned his DVM in 2024.

Tell us about your family and any pets you have!
I have 2 sisters in my family, with me being the middle child. I have 2 ferrets and 2 dogs that I live with. The ferrets are both males, named Rocky and Ali. My dogs are named Leo and Sky, and both are Labrador Retrievers.

If you could be any animal, what would it be and why?
I would be a bird of some kind so I would be able to fly.

What set you on the path to becoming a veterinarian?
I have always enjoyed being around animals at a young age. From spending time on my uncle’s farm in Green Lake, Wisconsin to working in a clinic as a technician, my passion for veterinary medicine soon grew. As time went on, I knew this was the career path for me.

What is your favorite animal-related quote?
"Your pet is your best friend for a period of time, but you are their best friend for life."

Kat Hall
Kat Hall
Kat Hall
DVM | Associate Veterinarian
DVM | Associate Veterinarian
Interests: Chiropractic Care & Soft Tissue Surgery
Interests: Chiropractic Care & Soft Tissue Surgery

Dr. Hall earned her Bachelor of Science in integrative biology in 2009 and her Doctor of Veterinary Medicine in 2014 from the University of Illinois. 

What kinds of pets do you have at home?
I have 7 cats (2 sphynx, 1 medium hair, and 4 short hairs), a mini Schnauzer, a Chinese crested, a Xoloitzcuintli, a mini Xolo, an antique Chihuahua, and a crested gecko. I would love to have a senior pet sanctuary and horses someday!

If you could be any animal in the world, what would it be?
I would be a spoiled housecat (with a nice porch!). Lots of time to nap in the sun, good snacks, attention when I want it, and no predators.

What do you love to do in your free time?
I love traveling, reading, walking my dogs, hiking, and cooking/baking - especially trying new recipes. 

Why did you decide to be a vet?
I love diagnosing and treating our pets' medical conditions and providing a lifetime of wellness care for important family members. I love that we can provide a wide variety of services to our companions and that each day offers new opportunities and challenges.

Tori McCarthy
Tori McCarthy
Tori McCarthy
DVM | Associate Veterinarian
DVM | Associate Veterinarian
Interests: Preventative Health Care, Soft Tissue Surgery, Emergency Medicine & Exotic Companion Animal Medicine
Interests: Preventative Health Care, Soft Tissue Surgery, Emergency Medicine & Exotic Companion Animal Medicine

Dr. McCarthy graduated from the University of New England with her Bachelor of Science in animal behavior in 2016 and obtained her DVM from St. George’s University School of Veterinary Medicine in 2024, after completing her clinical year of rotations at the University of Illinois College of Veterinary Medicine.

What do you love most about working at Midwest?
My favorite part about working at Midwest is the mentorship and endless opportunities for growth. 

What are some of your hobbies?
I love to travel internationally and I am a major foodie! I love to try all the favorite local spots.

Tell us about your pets and family.
My family is from Maine and I grew up with a younger sister and two parents that always had room in their hearts to open our house to more animals. We had a cat named Cece who lived to be 23 years old, a beloved dog named Shea who was the very best girl, a green-winged macaw named Duke, two guinea pigs named Jerry and Louie, and a bearded dragon named Blitz. My husband and I now have two rescue dogs named Addie and Hazel!

If you could be one animal in the world, what would it be?
I would be a dolphin because I have always been drawn to the ocean and marine life. They are the reason I pursued a career in veterinary medicine. 

Kaelan Harmes
Kaelan Harmes
Kaelan Harmes
DVM | Associate Veterinarian
DVM | Associate Veterinarian
Interests: Oncology & Orthopedic Surgery
Interests: Oncology & Orthopedic Surgery

Dr. Kae received his Bachelor of Science in Agriculture (animal sciences) from Purdue University in 2020 and earned his Doctor of Veterinary Medicine (DVM) from the University of Illinois in 2024.

What are three things people would be surprised to know about you?
1) Hamsters are my favorite animal, 2) I am a Libra–which is not a surprise, I definitely give off Libra energy, and 3) I lived in the Caribbean for my first year of veterinary school.

Why did you choose a career in veterinary medicine?
I knew from a young age that I wanted to become a veterinarian because learning about them really fueled my fire. I was so excited to do anything I could with animals and work towards my goal. Now being older and having gone through veterinary school, I know I want to kindle the human-animal bond and use my platform and education to ensure good animal health and welfare. Animals are such a blessing and I want to do what I can to assist my community with their fluffy family members.

What do you love to do in your free time?
I love hiking, tennis, pickleball, traveling, reading, language learning, listening to podcasts, and watching online streaming series.

What is your favorite thing about working at Midwest?
You will never meet an angry person here. Everyone is so happy to be doing what they’re doing and to be serving their community and their pets. It’s so nice to see everyone working towards the same goal of animal health.

Emma Albers-Lopez
Emma Albers-Lopez
Emma Albers-Lopez
DVM | Associate Veterinarian
DVM | Associate Veterinarian
Interests: Soft Tissue Surgery, Emergency Medicine, Shelter Medicine, Ophthalmology & Oncology
Interests: Soft Tissue Surgery, Emergency Medicine, Shelter Medicine, Ophthalmology & Oncology

Dr. Albers-Lopez received her Bachelor of Arts in Biology from Augustana College in 2020 and earned her DVM from the University of Illinois in 2024.

What’s your favorite quote about animals?
“Happiness is a warm puppy." - Charles M. Schulz

What are three things people would be surprised to know about you?
1) I collect keychains and vintage Disney vinyl albums, 2) I am a second-generation Cuban on my father's side and a second-generation German on my mother's side, and 3) I'm scuba dive certified.

If you could give one piece of advice to pet owners, what would it be?
Research your breed before adopting. All animals aren't the same and it's important to know how a pet will fit into your lifestyle before you give them a forever home.

Do you have pets? Share a little bit about them!
I have a Shih Tzu named Pilar that I found at a gas station, a Pitbull mix named Goose that was severely burned on the left side of her body, and a red-eared slider turtle named Hanauma.

Elisia Chavez
Elisia Chavez
Elisia Chavez
DVM | Associate Veterinarian
DVM | Associate Veterinarian
Interests: Shelter Medicine, Forensics, Animal Welfare, Ophthalmology, & Internal Medicine
Interests: Shelter Medicine, Forensics, Animal Welfare, Ophthalmology, & Internal Medicine

Dr. Chavez received her DVM from the University of Illinois in 2024.

What is one piece of advice you would give pet owners?
I would strongly recommend insurance. Pet insurance provides peace of mind, knowing that if a pet becomes ill or injured, the necessary medical care won't be prohibitively expensive. It can also encourage more proactive and preventive healthcare, as pet owners may be more inclined to seek veterinary care for their pets if they know they have insurance to cover it. 

Why did you choose to become a vet?
I've always felt a strong passion for helping animals. I've also had a deep-seated aspiration to offer veterinary care to those who might otherwise struggle to afford it.

Tell us 3 fun facts about yourself.
I'm an award-winning grilled cheese chef, I was a varsity badminton player in high school, and my dad was an Olympic qualifier in skiing but decided not to go.

If you could be any animal, what would that be?
I would be a cat. I think cats are incredible animals. I want nothing more in the world than to sleep! 

Yvonne O’Rourke
Yvonne O’Rourke
Yvonne O’Rourke
DVM | Associate Veterinarian
DVM | Associate Veterinarian
Interests: Soft Tissue Surgery, Canine Rehabilitation & Emergency Medicine
Interests: Soft Tissue Surgery, Canine Rehabilitation & Emergency Medicine

Dr. O’Rourke attended the University of Illinois for 5 years, receiving her bachelor’s degree in 2019, her master’s in 2020, and her DVM in 2024. 

What made you choose a career in veterinary medicine?
For as long as I can remember, I have dreamed of being a veterinarian. My mother would tell stories about me going up to and caring for any animal I saw as a child. As I got older, this career path allowed me to work with amazing people and animals, advise families, and advocate for animals.

What are your hobbies?
I enjoy reading, playing Pickleball, golfing, and baking in my free time!

What is your favorite quote about animals?
“They might only be here for a part of our life, but to them, you are their whole life.”

What are 3 interesting facts about you?
I am 100% Irish, I would love to rehab a home, and I have had a passport since I was 3 months old!

Meet Our Amazing Team

We have an outstanding team supporting our veterinarians. Together, we can make incredible things happen for our patients and clients! Get familiar with our team members’ friendly faces and see what makes them a special (and crucial) part of the Midwest Animal Hospital family.

Our support team is always here to help! If you ever have any questions, or want to schedule an appointment, call us at (708) 478-7788.

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Katrina
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Katie
Megan
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Diane
Diane
Diane
Hospital Director
Hospital Director
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Diane earned her CVT from JJC in 2002.

What is your favorite part about working at Midwest?
I love working alongside all the doctors, managers, and employees to support growth and development through training and workplace efficiency. And of course, the pets!

If you could give any advice to pet owners, what would it be?
We too are human, please give us patience and understanding as we prioritize our patient care. We don’t want to make you wait, but sometimes it happens. We do our best!

What are 3 things people would be surprised to know about you?
First, I have an obsession with shoes. Second, I love watching football. Third, I’m obsessed with Taylor Swift!

What is your favorite quote about animals?
“I’m suspicious of people who don’t like dogs, but I trust a dog when it doesn’t like a person.”
–Bill Murray

Brittany
Brittany
Brittany
Hospital Manager
Hospital Manager
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Tell us about your family. Do you have any pets?
I have a wonderful family! I have a handsome 15-year-old son named Jeremy, a gorgeous 1-year-old daughter named Maggie, a 2-year-old Frenchie named Chanel, and a 13-year-old cat named Taz–oh, and my spouse, Cory!

What’s your favorite quote about animals?
“Every individual can make a positive impact on the lives of all animals. It starts with education, empathy, and taking action."

What is your favorite dog or cat breed?
I absolutely adore French Bulldogs!

If you could be any animal, what would you choose?
I would be an elephant! They are so smart and protect their families with love and strength.

Katrina
Katrina
Katrina
Practice Manager
Practice Manager
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What do you love most about working at Midwest Animal Hospital?
I love being able to help each patient who comes to see us! Watching our team in action is awesome and I love encouraging growth and knowledge in our team. 

Do you have a favorite animal-related quote?
“Time spent with cats is never wasted.”
–Sigmund Freud 

Tell us 3 interesting things about yourself.
I started working at Midwest Animal Hospital as a Client Service Representative over 10 years ago. My understanding and love for pets has grown tremendously. And finally, my favorite thing is to see a pet have a normal human name, like ‘Brian.’

What’s the best advice you can give pet owners?
It is always better to prevent a disease than to have to treat one. You can do this by vaccinating and being diligent with heartworm, flea, and tick prevention.

Danielle
Danielle
Danielle
Marketing Manager
Marketing Manager
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Danielle earned her Bachelors degree from USF in 2013.

Tell us a little bit about your family.
I met my husband, Joe, in high school. We've been together for 14 years and have been married for 9. We have 3 wonderful children- Maddie (6), Henry (5), and William (1).

Do you have a favorite animal-related quote?
“Everyone thinks they have the best dog. And none of them are wrong.”
–W.R. Purche

What do you love to do in your free time?
My favorite things to do outside of work include hanging out with my kids, and reading!

Do you have any pets? Share them with us!
I have 3 awesome dogs: a Labrador named Diesel, a Great Dane named Dana, and a Rottweiler named Moana.

Katie
Katie
Katie
Inventory Manager
Inventory Manager
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What’s your favorite thing about your job?
I enjoy being in my own little world of inventory!

Share some interesting facts about yourself.
I've been working at Midwest Animal Hospital for almost 12 years. I love to fish and I used to own a horse.

Tell us a little bit about your family and any pets you have!
I have an older sister, a younger brother, and a dog named Roxie.

Do you have a favorite dog breed?
If I had to choose a favorite, it would be the Old English Bulldog!

Megan
Megan
Megan
Office Manager
Office Manager
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What do you love doing most in your role at Midwest Animal Hospital?
I love helping our clients learn and understand how to make the best decisions for their pets’ health.

Do you have a favorite dog or cat breed?
I have a soft spot for Weimaraners!

Does your family include any pets?
No pets yet! But I have been married for just a little over a year to my husband Nicholas. We just had our daughter, Harper, in July. 

Share something fun about yourself.
I love trashy TV shows! And I cry at emotional movies and songs no matter what. Also, I’m a bit of a clean freak.

Devin
Devin
Devin
Patient Care Manager
Patient Care Manager
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If you could give pet owners one piece of advice, what would it be?
Be sure to do your research on the breed that you are taking home to make sure your lifestyle matches the pet's!

What are some things people might be surprised to know about you?
I originally had a fear of dogs before working here, and I can solve a Rubik's cube in under a minute.

You can choose to be one animal–what is it?
If I could be an animal I’d choose to be a bald eagle, with an open sky and the freedom to fly wherever I want whenever I want. They're powerful, intelligent, and just majestic animals overall. I’m blind, so having eagle eyes would be quite nice.

What do you love to do most in your role?
I enjoy problem-solving and troubleshooting any issues that may arise.

Charlie
Charlie
Charlie
Reproduction Manager
Reproduction Manager
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Share something interesting about yourself.
I used to work with dangerous reptiles, and I love toy Poodles. 

What is your favorite thing about working in the veterinary profession?
I enjoy working in the reproduction side of things and being able to help improve dog breeds. 

Do you have any favorite hobbies?
When I have time, I enjoy training dogs and fishing. 

Does your family have any pets?
My wife and I have a daughter, along with 4 dogs and a cat.

Jennifer
Jennifer
Jennifer
Technician Manager
Technician Manager
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What do you love most about working at Midwest?
I love being in a welcoming and friendly work environment and seeing all the different types of cases we serve.

What is one of the most important things you educate pet owners about?
Prevention. Keep your pet on heartworm, flea, and tick prevention all year long!

Do you have any interesting facts that people might be surprised to know?
I’m a cat person at heart, I’m a James Brown skater, and I’m afraid of birds.

What are your favorite things to do in your spare time?
I love watching 80’s and 90’s movies, listening to all kinds of music (even country), and updating my home.

Kate
Kate
Kate
Grooming Manager
Grooming Manager
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Do you have any hobbies?
Of course! I love horseback riding and curling up with a good book. 

Share a little bit about your family (and pets!).
I have 2 children (going to be 3 soon!), along with 4 dogs, 2 cats, and a horse.

What’s one thing you would recommend to pet owners?
Grooming is important! Most dogs should see us for regular grooming appointments every 6-8 weeks. 

What do you love most about your job?
I love that I get to work with animals every day. I also love that every day is different, and I enjoy all my coworkers.

Jen
Jen
Jen
Animal Care Assistant Manager
Animal Care Assistant Manager
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What are some interesting facts about you?
My nickname used to be “Cat,” I can’t cook, but I’m pretty good at skiing. I also can’t eat most fresh fruits and vegetables.

Do you have any favorite hobbies?
I enjoy watching foreign dramas and hanging out with my nieces!

What do you love most about working at Midwest Animal Hospital?
My favorite thing about working at Midwest is getting to see all the different dogs that come to visit every day.

What are your favorite places to eat?
I love going to Wu’s Ramen and Panda Express here in town.

Our Team is the Best Around

Our camaraderie isn’t confined to the hospital. We love having fun together, whether that centers around caring for your pets, elevating our education to better serve you, or just kicking back and enjoying each other’s company!